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Golfbum · 07-17-2007, 08:17 AM

I play weekends and I play early. Tee off at 7:30 AM at my home course which offers memberships and has green fee players as well. We are normally done our round, a 3 some in 3 1/2 hours, 4 at the most if there are a few groups ahead of us.

You guys need to play early, you beat the heat, you beat the casual golfers who do not care about people behind them.

Another thing, do not blame high scoring golfers for slow play. I quite often play with two guys who are high scorers (90's-100) and we still play quickly. Last Friday two of us played 18 holes in 3 hours and my playing partner shot 113. So using that excuse doesn't always cut it. Nor does the excuse "We had a 4 some of women ahead of us" But that is another topic.

Golfbum · 07-17-2007, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Topflite_d2

Welcome to my world. Every Friday I go out and usally do about 27 holes. The first 18 are fine, then as I come back around to do the front nine again there is usally 4 or 5 carts lined up w/ 2 people each. Then usally when I do get to play all the people in front of me are waiting for some people who shouldn't be golfing anyways. All I know is when I grow up and get a job I am going a private course.

Do you not think there are booked tee times at a private course? I know for a fact there is, I work in the Back Shop at a private course and know exactly what the tee sheet looks like during the week. I pull the members clubs, and trust me you will have the same issues at a private course.

People want to play golf, plain and simple. At a lot of courses being a single does not give you any more rights than the foursome ahead of you.

Management looks at it this way. You booked a tee time, show up alone. They just lost the revenue of 3 other green fee players because you are alone. That is revenue they can not recover. Be Thankful the course you play lets you play alone on a busy day. Most will not allow that to happen, they'll put you in with a group of 2 or 3.

mkoreiwo · 07-17-2007, 09:42 AM

I agree that on many courses a single will be paired up. But if there is no one there at the time, our public courses will send you out. A single pays the same fees as anyone else, and I don't think you should be considered any less than a foursome - provided you do not hold up play!

With regards to playing through, if you can play through to an open course, I think you should be let through, and if I'm in a 3 or foursome, we always offer when we can. But if the course is not going to offer any benefit to doing so, we hold our relative positions. In my recent case, I believe I should have been let through, or at the least, asked.

blue3715 · 07-17-2007, 09:44 AM

says the guy who retired at 51...

Fourputt · 07-17-2007, 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by mkoreiwo

I agree that on many courses a single will be paired up. But if there is no one there at the time, our public courses will send you out. A single pays the same fees as anyone else, and I don't think you should be considered any less than a foursome - provided you do not hold up play!

With regards to playing through, if you can play through to an open course, I think you should be let through, and if I'm in a 3 or foursome, we always offer when we can. But if the course is not going to offer any benefit to doing so, we hold our relative positions. In my recent case, I believe I should have been let through, or at the least, asked.

If I'm in a threesome or twosome and a single plays up behind us, he will be invited to join our group, but almost never will he play through...again because the course is unlikely to be very open ahead of us. I played 14 holes alone earlier this year following a foursome (with other foursomes ahead of them). They offered to let me play through, but as there was no place to go, I declined. After I finished #14, they were still on the 15th tee waiting, so I actually joined up with them and we finished as a fivesome... and still waited (briefly) on every shot for the last 4 holes.

Sometimes you just have to be creative...

65nlovenit · 07-17-2007, 03:09 PM

You know the really sad part, there’s room for blame with the whole system. Golf courses are in business to make money, but stuffing as many people as humanly possible onto a given amount of real estate, is going to make them money but sure take the enjoyment out of a round of golf. The golf course should be controlling play, putting a marshal in a cart to keep an eye on situations and straightening them out before it becomes a major issue. They should be posting course rules of play, and have a tee off marshal making people aware of them. The other side of the coin is golfer’s themselves, I don’t know of any organized sport where you’d even be allowed to play if you didn’t know the rules, yet if you watch a weekend golf course its obvious that there are large numbers of so called golfers who don’t have an inkling about golf etiquette. I think we’ve got to take our golf buddies, playing partners, and friends aside and whisper some words of wisdom in their ears. We can’t control golf courses, but maybe we can ENLIGHTEN the people who play there.

Golfbum · 07-17-2007, 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by blue3715

says the guy who retired at 51...

OK so your point about me being retired at age 51 is?

What does my retirement age have to do with playing through, or being paired up with a 2some or 3some?
Please, make your point more clearly.
I am sure others would like to hear your valuable opinion

Fourputt · 07-18-2007, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Golfbum

OK so your point about me being retired at age 51 is?

What does my retirement age have to do with playing through, or being paired up with a 2some or 3some?
Please, make your point more clearly.
I am sure others would like to hear your valuable opinion

I kinda wondered what his point was too..... from the guy who retired at 60...

Topflite_d2 · 07-18-2007, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Golfbum

Do you not think there are booked tee times at a private course? I know for a fact there is, I work in the Back Shop at a private course and know exactly what the tee sheet looks like during the week. I pull the members clubs, and trust me you will have the same issues at a private course.

People want to play golf, plain and simple. At a lot of courses being a single does not give you any more rights than the foursome ahead of you.

Management looks at it this way. You booked a tee time, show up alone. They just lost the revenue of 3 other green fee players because you are alone. That is revenue they can not recover. Be Thankful the course you play lets you play alone on a busy day. Most will not allow that to happen, they'll put you in with a group of 2 or 3.

Well usually on a busy day I do join up w/ a few other players. But I don't think that Singles play any slower than foursomes really I think they play faster. But I do see ur point because then there is one less player.

Jamin21 · 07-24-2007, 06:21 AM

When I play golf with my family we tend to be the group hitting balls all over the course. Be we always let faster groups play through us no matter what size they are. We just always try to be considerate of others. But I have also come across the situation where I have been playing solo and caught slower groups. Mostly I get the offer to play through without even asking. But for the occasions that the offer never arises after a few holes, I will just casually and very politely ask the group ahead if the mind me playing through. I will make sure I casually point out that I'm alone and leave the rest up to them. In doing so, I'm really putting the onus on them to make a very cruel decision in fornt of their group. Not deliberately, but that is the by-product of the way I approach them. If they deny me, I politely accept their decision and start looking at the course map for the earliest chance to skip a hole or 2 and jump in front of them.