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Old 08-23-2007, 05:53 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Rule - need help with this specific situation on provsional balls

hi all- I played with my foursome today - I have a question.

One player - hit a ball right towards a water area. He then played a provisonal ball which he sliced into the woods and was gone for sure. He then found the orignal ball and just continued play -completely disreagrding the provisional stroke as if he didn't take it. this seems a little fishy to me - like he got a free second try. I tried to find something about this on the PGA site but wasn't able too...anyone know what the deal is in terms of strokes incurred in this situation??
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Old 08-23-2007, 07:43 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I'm pretty sure that the provisional doesn't matter if his original ball was in play.
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1st point.... if the first ball was thought to be lost in a water hazard, then the rules don't allow for him to even play a provisional ball (unless there is a local rule to that effect... very rare). So when he hit the second ball, the first ball was automatically abandoned and the 2nd ball became the ball in play lying 3 wherever it ended up. If that 2nd ball was lost, then he should have returned to the tee and hit yet another ball, and that would be his 5th stroke.

If there was reason to believe that the first shot might be lost OUTSIDE of the hazard, then he was correct in playing a provisional, and once the original ball is found, the provisional is abandoned and any strokes taken with that ball are not counted.

So more information is required for clarification before a correct ruling can be made. Was the original ball thought to be lost in the hazard? Or was there sufficient reason to think that it might be lost in deep rough that was not within the margin of the hazard?
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