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10-10-2007, 06:01 PM
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| | Mini Puttin
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon, near Bandon Dunes
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Originally Posted by Fourputt Some people think that a 1.5" line on the ball will make them hit a more accurate putt from 40 feet away.  It may help somewhat in a mental sense by making them feel more confident, but physically it isn't enough of a guide to be a real factor. If you misalign that mark by 1/32 (.03125") of an inch, then at 40 feet you would be off by almost a foot, assuming that you were perfectly lined up with the mark. And that is assuming that your read on the putt was right in the first place. It's even difficult to align a longer sight line than that accurately at that distance... ask anyone who has done target shooting with a handgun. And a pistol has sights that are manufactured to be more accurate than a line drawn on a golf ball.
To each his own, but I've never seen any advantage to it, and I have tried it. Just doesn't make any difference in my putting. I'm a pretty decent putter, and don't set my ball down in any particular way. | No one ever said you can not be a good putter with out the line. Just like no one ever said you can not be a good golfer with hickory shafted clubs.
It is true that if you miss align your golf ball you will be off, however how do you know you are not mis aligning your putter.
If you miss read a putt and then line your ball up wrong that is the a problem with the mis read. What if you read a putt wrong and then line your putter up wrong?
I my self do not use a line on my ball, but for people to say it does not work is crazy. I do not like it because of pace of play issues.
Tiger Woods and many many of the other top golfers use a line to line their ball up. |
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10-10-2007, 06:04 PM
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#22 (permalink)
| | Mini Puttin
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon, near Bandon Dunes
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| You use the line to aim you ball at your intended target. Pick an intermideate target and it can be extreamlly effective. |
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10-17-2007, 12:04 AM
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Geelong, Vic, Australia
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| dont they also the line for the centre of weight to balance the ball for your tee shot and putting so that you hit the sweet spot if that makes sense sorry if it doesnt
__________________ That sounds like something a "Super Hero" would say; "I Have The Power" lets put you in tights and a cape! |
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10-17-2007, 12:28 AM
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| | Mini Puttin
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon, near Bandon Dunes
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Originally Posted by Surtees dont they also the line for the centre of weight to balance the ball for your tee shot and putting so that you hit the sweet spot if that makes sense sorry if it doesnt | It is for a different purpose than you described. My dad has one and it does work. I do not use it though. What you are talking is a device that spins the ball at high speeds. This in return finds the center of gravity. Golf balls are supposed to be perefectly balanced, however they are not. A ball that is not in balance will miss on putts and you will not know why you missed.
If you remember there was the Wilson True ball. Well to demonstrate how good their balls were balanced they would open up random boxes and have a robot putt them on a perfectly flat surface. The Wilson True never missed. However, Pro V's and every other ball you could think of missed on a regular basis. Not all the balls were out of balance, but a lot of them were. |
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10-17-2007, 04:37 PM
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| | Big Birtha Driver
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: On the Highway to hell...
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| I've never been a gadget guy. I hate having things to tell me exactly how far I need to hit the ball. Where's the fun in that? I would honestly feel like I was cheating if I did that. However, the Sky Caddies are cool to figure out the actual total hole distance, otherwise it's useless IMO. The only gadgets I have, is one of club cleaners that you hang on your bag. I found it for a buck at a garage sale. That is a great little device, especially if the ground is soft. I also use ball markers, and ball mark repairer.
RIck, you aren't kidding about more peopel needing to use the ball mark fixers.. More than once, I have been robbed of a good putt, because my ball got deflected by a crater.. That is frustrating in tourneys.. |
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10-17-2007, 04:46 PM
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| | Mini Puttin
Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Oregon, near Bandon Dunes
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Originally Posted by 300Yards I've never been a gadget guy. I hate having things to tell me exactly how far I need to hit the ball. Where's the fun in that? I would honestly feel like I was cheating if I did that. However, the Sky Caddies are cool to figure out the actual total hole distance, otherwise it's useless IMO. The only gadgets I have, is one of club cleaners that you hang on your bag. I found it for a buck at a garage sale. That is a great little device, especially if the ground is soft. I also use ball markers, and ball mark repairer.
RIck, you aren't kidding about more peopel needing to use the ball mark fixers.. More than once, I have been robbed of a good putt, because my ball got deflected by a crater.. That is frustrating in tourneys.. | The only time the gps are not 100% accurate is on the tee box. They go tee to green and if there is a dog leg, the gps still goes straight. Eventhough you have to go around the dogleg.
How is knowing the exact distance useless? I know that when I have a wedge in my hand, the exact distance is important.
If you have ever seen a tour players yardage guide, they know the exact distance form every where. Not that any of us are tour pros, but we should strive to be the best that we can be. Especillay when it is something easy like getting the yardage right. |
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10-18-2007, 12:35 AM
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| | Putter
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by 300Yards I've never been a gadget guy. I hate having things to tell me exactly how far I need to hit the ball. Where's the fun in that? I would honestly feel like I was cheating if I did that. |
300yards,
with all due respect my golfing brotha, what do you think a PGA tour caddie does for the player they carry for? THey take one or two days before a golf tournament starts, and walk the fairways to find all the yardage markers and log them down so they can tell the player how many yards to the hole from any given place on the fairway. SO how is the SkyCaddie any different with the exception that it's a 'little bit' more accurate than an actual tour caddie?
__________________ My Bag: Driver: PING G10 Tour 9° (Fujikura E-Fit 380 graph shaft) F Woods: PING G5 3Wood Tour 13° (Fujikura E-Fit 370 graph shaft) Irons: PING S59 <3-9 iron - red 1° flat> (R.P. Rifle shafts 5.5 stiff) Hybrids: PING G10 - 2H 18° (Fujikura E-Fit 380HB graph shaft) Wedges: PING Tour <48°PW> PING Tour-W <54°SW & 60°LW> (Rifle 'Precision Wedge' shafts 5.5 stiff) Putter: YES! 'Diana' -variable weighted- (UST 'Frequency Filter' putter shaft 33.5") Ball: Srixon Z-URC / Z-URS |
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10-18-2007, 12:50 AM
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| | Wedge
Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Littleton, CO
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Originally Posted by Platinum_Shafts 300yards,
with all due respect my golfing brotha, what do you think a PGA tour caddie does for the player they carry for? THey take one or two days before a golf tournament starts, and walk the fairways to find all the yardage markers and log them down so they can tell the player how many yards to the hole from any given place on the fairway. SO how is the SkyCaddie any different with the exception that it's a 'little bit' more accurate than an actual tour caddie? | How do you figure that the Sky Caddy is more accurate than the Tour caddy? They use the best laser rangefinders available to make those yardage books, and while the GPS units are all limited in how many points can be entered per hole, the Tour caddy can (and does) scope and log EVERY possible obstacle, and measures them to within 1 yard. No way that any GPS system is more accurate than that. I can assure your that the typical Tour player's yardage book is dead on.
__________________ Rick
Driver - Mizuno MX-560 9.5°
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10-18-2007, 03:42 PM
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| | Putter
Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Los Angeles, CA
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Originally Posted by Fourputt How do you figure that the Sky Caddy is more accurate than the Tour caddy? They use the best laser rangefinders available to make those yardage books, and while the GPS units are all limited in how many points can be entered per hole, the Tour caddy can (and does) scope and log EVERY possible obstacle, and measures them to within 1 yard. No way that any GPS system is more accurate than that. I can assure your that the typical Tour player's yardage book is dead on. | Sorry Rick, I disagree (but then what are forums for  )Human error is number 1 on the list of error, though I will agree regarding curves (horseshoes and dog legs, etc.) a tour caddy does a better job in overall calculations however it's been technically proven that Global Positioning System is more acurate than theee best laser range finder in any situation in any arena. Lase Range Finders have to be calibrated more often and who of us that owns a laser range finder takes the time to send it in to the manufacturer to have it calibrated every so often? Global Positioning satellites are constantly being calibrated.
Anyway, regardless of mine or your preference; whether it be a laser range finder, GPS, or a pro tour caddy with a laser range finder( which with even as much money as I make, I still couldn't afford to hire one on a constant basis ); the point is, that it comes down to how well a player can shoot and judge distance with the naked eye, not how close GPS or a laser range finder can get information to a golfer within one stinkin' yard. Agreed?
P.S. I just switched from my Bobby Jones 5H Hybrid (excellent club by the way), to a TM #5 Rescue Hybrid (to act as my fairway hybid and as my 5 wood for short short drives)...how do you like yours??
Oops..actually mine's a Burner Rescue. Is yours a Rescue or Burner Rescue?
__________________ My Bag: Driver: PING G10 Tour 9° (Fujikura E-Fit 380 graph shaft) F Woods: PING G5 3Wood Tour 13° (Fujikura E-Fit 370 graph shaft) Irons: PING S59 <3-9 iron - red 1° flat> (R.P. Rifle shafts 5.5 stiff) Hybrids: PING G10 - 2H 18° (Fujikura E-Fit 380HB graph shaft) Wedges: PING Tour <48°PW> PING Tour-W <54°SW & 60°LW> (Rifle 'Precision Wedge' shafts 5.5 stiff) Putter: YES! 'Diana' -variable weighted- (UST 'Frequency Filter' putter shaft 33.5") Ball: Srixon Z-URC / Z-URS
Last edited by Platinum_Shafts : 10-18-2007 at 05:33 PM.
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10-18-2007, 04:22 PM
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#30 (permalink)
| | Big Birtha Driver
Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: On the Highway to hell...
Posts: 796
| Sorry I was so bitter, but I haven't been in the best mood lately.. Ok, so maybe the Sky Caddies aren't useless, but I like the feeling of knowing that I, not a machine, figured out a course on my own. I keep my own golf book, with as many details as any pro. I figure out distances, green breaks, doglegs, etc, all from my experiences at a course. I just find it more fun, and challenging when I am unsure of a distance. That's when you really know what your abilities are. I just feel like I would cheat myself outta that, if I used a range finder, etc.. I have nothing against the Sky Caddie crowd, I just find the game better without it. I've played with a guy who used a Sky Caddie before, and I must admit, it was cool, but they take too long, and by the time he's done figuring out what he wants to do, I'm ready to take my shot. People who use those sometimes depend way to much on them, and in the end, all that does is hurt you.
Last edited by 300Yards : 10-18-2007 at 04:24 PM.
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