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Old 01-19-2007, 08:30 AM   #11 (permalink)
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My dad found a guy that sells back golf balls from a quarter to $1 depending on the ball..Got a dozen Pro V1x from $12 and a ball from that dozen has my longest drive ever. 342 yards
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Old 01-19-2007, 10:56 AM   #12 (permalink)
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There's lots of places that sell used balls. Are they any good?
The following is a recent reprint from GOLF DIGEST on the pros and cons of the reprocessed golf ball. Or, more precisely, the reprocessed water ball.

Here, my friends, is the $64,000 question. Exactly how much life is left in
those golf balls that have been fished out of the water? The cover of a golf
ball seems fairly impervious, so how bad could it be for a ball to sit idly in the water for a few months? Does a ball that's been lying in the mud at the bottom of a pond for 30 days lose distance? Does it gain distance? Does being submerged for a length of time have any effect whatsoever?

Like most golfers, GOLF DIGEST editors recover their fair share of water balls (that's right, we're as cheap as the next guy), and also like most golfers, we wanted to know what we were getting from these somewhat soggy transactions.

Here's how we went about investigating the playability of balls pulled from the water, and keep in mind that the test was not all-inclusive. We used only three-piece, balata-covered balls and two-piece balls with a lithium-Surlyn cover.

Step 1: (a) We took 11 new three-piece balls and 11 new two-piece balls and submerged them in a pond for eight days.
(b) We took another 22 new two- and three-piece balls and submerged them for three months.
(c)Then we took a third batch of 22 new balls and let them sit in the water for six months. The average water temperatures ranged from 36 to 70 degrees Fahrenheit during this period.


Step 2: We recovered the balls last November and tested them using a robotic hitting machine. The golf club used was a standard-length metal driver (9.5-degree loft) with an extra-stiff shaft. Clubhead speed was 93.7 m.p.h., launch angle was 9 degrees and the average spin rate was 2,800 r.p.m.

Step 3: We started testing by hitting 11 new two- and three-piece balls as a benchmark
The average carry and roll for the new three-piece balls was 250.7 yards. These numbers are not the maximum carry and roll for two-and three-piece balls, simply the average carry and roll under our test conditions.

The next stage was to hit the balls that had been retrieved from the water. The average carry and roll for three-piece balls that had been in the water for eight days was 235.7 yards. That distance shrunk to 229.4 yards after three months and to 226.2 yards after six months. The differences? A six yard loss of distance after eight days, a 12-yard loss after three months and a 15-yard loss after six months.

For the two-piece ball, the carry and roll was 250.7 yards for the new two-piece balls and 244.9 yards after eight days in the water. The carry and roll for two-piece balls after three months in the drink was 241.6 yards. The two-piece balls that spent six months under water averaged 242.5 yards. The bottom line is that the two-piece ball came up almost six yards shorter after being submerged for eight days. It lost another 3.3 yards (9.1 total) after three months, yet interestingly enough, after six months in the water, the two-piece ball averaged one yard farther than the ball that had been in the water for three months.

"Golf balls basically have a non-porous cover," says Mike Sullivan, senior director of research and development worldwide for Spalding, maker of Top-Flite golf balls, "but like with any plastic or polymer, they are subject to chemicals passing through them. We
have looked at this in great detail, because we certainly don't want the balls to be affected one way or the other by humidity or wet fairways.

"For a two-piece ball, being in the water typically makes the ball harder in terms of compression, and it also slows down the coefficient of restitution (the ability of the ball to regain its roundness after impact), and that makes it fly shorter. Three-piece balls are the opposite in that they get softer in terms of compression, but they will also fly shorter. We have no data that says water hurts three-piece balls more than two-piece balls, but soft-cover balls are obviously a bit more permeable than hard-cover balls."

Senior executive vice Vanasdale, president for the golf ball division of Sport Supply Group, says "I can honestly say that we have done tests in the tens of thousands utilizing our environments, and I'll tell you this much, your numbers are off. It's all relative to the types of balls, the makes of balls, when the balls were made and the types of composition of the cover stock," says Vanasdale.

The missing link in this equation is that when you scoop a ball from the water, you never know how long that ball has been sitting there. So, the next time you see a little white orb shimmering in the shallows of a nearby pond, remember the adage, all that glitters is not gold.
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My dad found a guy that sells back golf balls from a quarter to $1 depending on the ball..Got a dozen Pro V1x from $12 and a ball from that dozen has my longest drive ever. 342 yards
Yesterday I bought a dozen Pro V1X, and V1 mix, from my course for $5! He said they came off the course, and it looked to me that they were hit only once, and that hit got them lost. I ended up hitting one about 350, and sticking it to the front of the green. One of my best rounds ever! I love Pro Vs!!
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