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Old 08-11-2007, 04:59 PM   #11 (permalink)
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well put...exactly what i'm trying to say...just a followthrough won't cure it and the slice can be cured with other things too...He put an idea out there and i'm testing it. But apparently this guy is very dedicated to this teaching so anything we say he'll just disagree with
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Old 08-11-2007, 06:22 PM   #12 (permalink)
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ive gotta disagree with you foster, i too think the follow through is very important and theres a lot of teaching material out there focusing complelty on the follow through and correct finish

i think what hes trying to say is not that concentrating on the follow through will suddenly fix a slice but alot of problems are cuased becuase of a lack of follow through and inevitably an incorrect finish

ive corrected my slice by focusing on the release and i have a prity poor follow through does that mean the follow through has nothing to do with the slice id say no i personally think ive just taken a long road to fixing this problem im now having to spend all my trainin focusing on the follow through its amazing how important it is and how little of my time ive spent on it

its so easy just to hit a shot straight without the follow through but add the follow through and i think you turn an ok shot into a good shot
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Old 08-11-2007, 11:41 PM   #13 (permalink)
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i think what hes trying to say is not that concentrating on the follow through will suddenly fix a slice but alot of problems are cuased becuase of a lack of follow through and inevitably an incorrect finish

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Idk if you look at all the golfers now a days most of there finishes are slightly different and that will be seen in any golfer. What then is the standard for a good finish? What makes Tigers finish better then John Daly's or Jim Furyks. Why are they different? I would say body structure is a huge part in it determining how a certain player will finish. So why is there one correct way to finish and certainly why does one finish cure a slice? If there was two then his theory is questionable.
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i totally agree every golfers got his own style its why one golfers better than another but you must agree that jim furkes swings considered one in a million and that the "perfect golf swing" can be calculated and shown on video and read and pictured described in any book and on any site and it always ends with the left should left of the target and the club horizontal behind the neck

i actually watched a video the other day of ernie ells and even he who i think has an amazing swing didnt finish quite to the neck but mechelle wee does...

i think the training aids that say what we have to be doing definatly should be aimmed for but i agree every golfers got his or her swing
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:34 PM   #15 (permalink)
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so when ppl start powering through the ball...can you teach us how to follow through so we don't hook it ?
I'm not sur what you mean by "powering through the ball". And how does this cause a hook?
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:38 PM   #16 (permalink)
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This follow-through advice may work, but kind of strikes me like ensuring you drive your car to the right place by watching the rear-view mirror.
I really don't understand how this is at all analogous. It's more like looking AHEAD of you instead of right in front of the hood...which is precisely how they teach you to drive. Otherwise you over-correct.

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There are simpler, more direct ways to cure a slice (or a hook), and they begin by understanding the only two things (either one or both) that can cause a ball to have slice spin: 1) outside-in swing path through impact, or 2) open club face at impact.
And this cures both assuming the setup and grip are correct.

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There are simple techniques to develop the swing mechanics to be on path through impact, and if you employ those, you don't need to think about your follow through one bit. Open club face is different matter and has several possible causes or contributing causes, some of which, though not complicated, are usually overlooked or not understood by by golfers - even golf teachers!
So then why haven't we eliminated the slice with so many teachers who teach nothing but mechanics and impact?

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To run through the list is beyond the scope of this forum, and to shoot in the dark with a tip without seeing you or running you through a diagnostic process is irresponsible. It's not complicated, just requires that one know the whole story. More info below...

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This is hardly a shot in the dark. This is a cure for well over the majority of slicers/faders. It comes from experience, discussion, and observation.
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Old 08-13-2007, 06:41 PM   #17 (permalink)
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well put...exactly what i'm trying to say...just a followthrough won't cure it and the slice can be cured with other things too...He put an idea out there and i'm testing it. But apparently this guy is very dedicated to this teaching so anything we say he'll just disagree with
I am very dedicated to an idea and so far I've found well over 75% of the response has been positive. There are a few who do not find success with this but that's most likely because they still create the desired finish with the thought alone. There is of course the other posibility that the grip and setup could be off in which case it doesn't matter how you finish. But that's why this finish comes 3rd in my list of steps after the setup.

For the record I will disagree until I am proven wrong. Just because you disagree does not make me wrong.
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Idk if you look at all the golfers now a days most of there finishes are slightly different and that will be seen in any golfer. What then is the standard for a good finish? What makes Tigers finish better then John Daly's or Jim Furyks. Why are they different? I would say body structure is a huge part in it determining how a certain player will finish. So why is there one correct way to finish and certainly why does one finish cure a slice? If there was two then his theory is questionable.
There are many different ways to finish, and they all point to what they did DURING the swing. The trick is learning what those differences mean.

FWIW, Tigers finish isn't all that good, but it's evidence of what he is having problems with during his swing.

Yes I know he won, but I could go through a long discussion about Tiger's swing which would bring in a lot of idea's into the frey.
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i have to agree i do believe the swing makes the world of a difference. impact is minor, but hey i am not a pro here. when i slowed my swing down i stopped slicing. i really need to practice more on my swing. probably a good lesson too!
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i have to agree i do believe the swing makes the world of a difference. impact is minor, but hey i am not a pro here. when i slowed my swing down i stopped slicing.
If a slower tempo worked, you were probably not allowing the club head to catch up to your hands at impact, thus having the club face slightly open, which, of course puts sidespin on the ball. This is a surprisingly common error among slicers of the golf ball.

Fixing a slice or a hook isn't difficult if one understands the simple cause-effect essentials of the golf swing.

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