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11-27-2007, 02:48 PM
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| | Big Birtha Driver
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| You must have Callaway irons? 10 I is the PW which should be around 46-48 degrees loft. Next club you should have would be a 52* wedge with 8 degrees bounce. Then either a 56 or 58 degree SW with at least 10 degrees bounce. If you play on courses that have firm sand go with a 56 degree loft and 8-10 bounce. If you play courses that have soft sand go with a 58 degree loft and 12 degrees bounce. You want a higher bounce out of soft sand so the flange of the wedge does not dig into the sand.
At least those are my thoughts on wedges. I do not carry a 60 degree wedge, I can make do with the lower lofted SW. I Carry 13 clubs, I rarely carry a 3 wood. That club will likely go back in my bag next summer as there is a wicked Par 4 at the course I will play the most and I need to hit 3 wood off the tee to a narrow fairway with water left and trees on the right. |
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11-27-2007, 05:15 PM
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Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Geelong, Vic, Australia
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| I have daiwa irons I'm pretty sure my sand is standard loft and so is my 10 iron (pw), I'm was just thinking about getting something in between the two that could chip/loft the ball up nicely when a bit closer to the greens, i tend to over hit my pw a little bit.thanks for all the reply
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11-28-2007, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Surtees I have daiwa irons I'm pretty sure my sand is standard loft and so is my 10 iron (pw), I'm was just thinking about getting something in between the two that could chip/loft the ball up nicely when a bit closer to the greens, i tend to over hit my pw a little bit.thanks for all the reply | The trouble is that these days there no standard for iron lofts. There is a range, but what yours is specifically will determine what you need in a gap wedge. My PW is 45°, and my GW is 50°. But as Golfbum says your PW could be as high as 48°, and that might make a difference... send you more towards a 52° wedge to fill the gap.
The one site I know of that lists specs for clubs does not list Daiwa, and when I try to find it on Google, all I get for golf is a Japanese language site, or fishing gear in English. 
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11-28-2007, 07:17 PM
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| Yes Fourputt daiwa mostly makes fishing gear, my clubs are an older set so my 10 iron doesnt have a degree sign on it. whats the best way to find out what the angle is?
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11-29-2007, 04:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Surtees Yes Fourputt daiwa mostly makes fishing gear, my clubs are an older set so my 10 iron doesnt have a degree sign on it. whats the best way to find out what the angle is? |
Surtees, no pitching wedge (or #10 club) that I have ever seen has a degree indicaton on it. Maybe if you take your club to a pro shop they could tell you 
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11-29-2007, 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Surtees Yes Fourputt daiwa mostly makes fishing gear, my clubs are an older set so my 10 iron doesnt have a degree sign on it. whats the best way to find out what the angle is? | You might want to think about buying some new irons! If yours are ten years old I would tend to say the PW would be around 48 degrees loft. It was roughly 10 years ago that OEM's started to jack the lofts on irons down. Cobra started it. They would hold Demo Days and ask you to hit their 6 iron and compare it with your 6 iron. The Cobra 6 iron would be longer than yours. Of course it would, the loft was the same as your 5 iron. But they did not mention that fact and of course you thought "Wow I gotta have these twigs, they are a club longer than my current irons" The plan worked and all the other OEM's had to follow suit.
One thing I know for sure, I would never have one of those chipping irons in my bag. One dimensional club, useless for any other shots. |
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11-29-2007, 04:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Golfbum You might want to think about buying some new irons! If yours are ten years old I would tend to say the PW would be around 48 degrees loft. It was roughly 10 years ago that OEM's started to jack the lofts on irons down. Cobra started it. They would hold Demo Days and ask you to hit their 6 iron and compare it with your 6 iron. The Cobra 6 iron would be longer than yours. Of course it would, the loft was the same as your 5 iron. But they did not mention that fact and of course you thought "Wow I gotta have these twigs, they are a club longer than my current irons" The plan worked and all the other OEM's had to follow suit.
One thing I know for sure, I would never have one of those chipping irons in my bag. One dimensional club, useless for any other shots. | Thanks for that info, my irons prob are about 10 yrs old i was starting to think about getting some nice new shiny one. I know eveyone will have a different opion on this but what would you all suggest for a new set and why? thanks again
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11-29-2007, 08:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Surtees Thanks for that info, my irons prob are about 10 yrs old i was starting to think about getting some nice new shiny one. I know eveyone will have a different opion on this but what would you all suggest for a new set and why? thanks again | What irons you buy depends on what your playing abilities are. If you are a single digit player you might want to consider a set of forged cavity back irons. Or possibly a combo set, half CB, half blade style.
If you are not a consistent ball striker you need to purchase irons with more forgiveness. Ping G5's, TaylorMade RAC HT's. these are more forgiving on miss hits.
Be honest with yourself and your ability to repeat your swing, then go try some irons that you feel will help you score better. Remember there are many many PRO's who play cavity back irons. You have to think if those irons are good for them then they have to be good for you too.
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11-29-2007, 10:36 PM
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| my irons atm are a cavity back type and i enjoy playing with them. I'm not always the most consistent player so some forgiveness is need sometimes. I was having a look at some Tommy Armour 845, I've heard that they are meant to do alright clubs and not overly expensive. what do you think about them?
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11-30-2007, 03:09 AM
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Originally Posted by Surtees my irons atm are a cavity back type and i enjoy playing with them. I'm not always the most consistent player so some forgiveness is need sometimes. I was having a look at some Tommy Armour 845, I've heard that they are meant to do alright clubs and not overly expensive. what do you think about them? | I actually play a set of Tommy Armour Silversscotts as my back up iron set Tommy Armour Golf Silver Scot Reviews, for the price you cannot complain and the rifle shafts are by far my favorite steel shaft. The play similliar to MP-33's or Mp-60's though the feel is a little muted/softer in comparison....though thats a subjective comparison. The one negative thing I can say about the armours is the lack of custom fitting (I had to have th shafts extended on mine) and the stock grips are horrible, I would replace those right out the gate.
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